Show Notes

Episode 154: Stepping Out of Your Comfort Zone

It can be hard to step out of your comfort zone, and sometimes perfectionism keeps us squarely in it. In this episode, Janine and Shannon discuss a project that has Janine stepping way out of her comfort zone and how she’s trying hard to not let perfectionism get in the way.

Discussion topics include:

  • How Janine is stepping out of her comfort zone with the publication and marketing of her new Orderly Roots genealogy guide
  • Shannon’s attempts to help Janine reframe her thinking about sales
  • How perfectionism fits into Janine’s discomfort
  • The difficulty in calling a writing project finished
  • The physiological effect of the stress of going out of your comfort zone
  • Figuring out what tasks merit spending more time
  • Shannon’s introduction of a stressor Janine hadn’t even thought of. (Thanks, Shannon.)
  • The podcast’s upcoming third anniversary
  • Janine’s enjoyment of being new in a field and her transition into acknowledging herself as an expert
  • Shannon’s insight that Janine’s enjoyment of being new means she likes getting out of her comfort zone
  • The joy of having a challenge that you don’t know you can achieve, something Shannon and Janine both love
  • How perfectionism can get in the way of rising to certain challenges
  • How Shannon went from being an adamant non-runner to finishing the Boston Marathon four years later
  • Shannon’s husband Mike’s rising to the challenge of knitting socks.


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